won. you can't discount the enthusiasm he had. people just loved him. the ones that did. >> unbelievable. thank you. >> thank you. >> unfortunately all good things must come to an end. i'm so sorry this information is absolutely very engaging and very inspiring. >> thank you all for coming. thank you, katy, for doing this. >> please buy the book. >> please buy the book. >> sorry about that. >> thank you very much. [applause] >> thank you. i have to say it's a real honor for me to make these introductions. rudabeh shahbazi anchors weekday

newscast on cbs 4 in miami. shee anchors the public affairs show, "focus on south florida" which airs on tv 33. she joined cbs4 in august 2016 and as a morning anchor, became amain anchor along with rick folbaum in september 2003. she won an emmy of the pulse nightclub mass shooting attack and was nominated for an emmy for her coverage from havana whenve president obama made his historic visit to cuba. before joining cbs4 rudabeh worked at television stations in l.a. and phoenix where she received emmys and emmy nominations. she studied journalism andology and received a master's degree from university of california, berkeley graduate school of

journalism. i suspect that most of you in this room like me were first introduced to khzir khan a little after 9:00 p.m. eastern time, on july 28th, 2016 when case sir muslim-american citizens and her his son was tragically killed in iraq in 2004 electrified millions of people around the world on final day of the democratic convention when he passionately spoke about american ideals and values and offered to lend donald trump muchlu read and dog eared pocket constitution. khzir was -- [applause]

khzir was born the eldest of 10 children in rural pakistan. he and his family moved to the united states in 1980 where they became american citizens and raised three sons. khzir hold as bachelor's degree from university of punjab and llb from punjab university law school and llm from haw -- harvard law school. khzir's book, an american family memoir of hope and sacrifice takes you on his life's journey from pakistan through schooling in pakistan, to the united states, to the convention and after. it was a joy to read and i believe after you read it you agree with me it should be required reading in civics classes throughout the united states. as described in the book, after his stirring speech at the democratic national convention,

khzir and gazallah received hundreds of letters from inspired people throughout the u.s. and world, offering condolences thanking them for their strength and courage. i want to read a passage from one of those letters and it's quite the, a little description of it. this is from a woman, in this came a week after the convention from a woman in oregon referenced, mr. and mrs. khan, charlottesville, virginia. it summarized in the book offers her condolence and writes she believes he must be proud of us for speaking out. she hank thank them the for their courage exercising rights for all americansnse guaranteen the first amendment of the constitution. and she then rights, this really cap us the essence of what khzir's presence that woman as

well as millions of people around the world. i'ms reading this quote from te letter. it has been such a sight to behold and you have made me very proud as an american. i am disabled and unable to travel by airplane. i will never be able to see the statue of liberty or ellis island. that is okay now, because of the seen the parents of captain humiyan khan. i seen lady liberty quite alive. join me in welcoming rudabeh khzir to the miami book fair. [applause]

>> thank you. >> welcome, everyone. and thank you for being here. welcome to miami. thank you. such an honor. >> thank you very much. >> so i first want to start with the most important aspect of this entire story which is your son. the honorable humayun chandra levy what do you want people to remember him about his legacy. >> he was best of america. he was made right here. two, we brought him two years old to this nation to, this countrytw and the rest, all he learned from here, his service

to others, standing up for fairness. he was made in right here, made of values and goodness of this country. i didn't know recently i was at an event in washington, d.c.. a lady approached me and she said, mr. khan, you don't know me but captain humaynu kahn was my commander in iraq. he found out that i cry every day because i was so afraid. he made a point as long as he was there, he would come to me every evening before i went to bed and he would assure me that i am with you, i am here to protect you. that is what we know of captain humayun khan.

[applause] i pay tributes to veterans if you're here, or hear my voice, members of the armed forces, members of our law enforcement and their families, thank you for your sacrifice. thank you for your honorable service to this nation, for keeping us safe and for keeping us free. we are grateful. captain humayun khan, was a soldier's soldier. he took an oath to the constitutionns to protect those under his responsibility and true to his word to the last moment of his life, and, we did not make him that.

and, and that is what the stories we tell in the book, that he was made right here. he was made in this country. he was made in this nation. he was everything, every reader of thomas jefferson, meaning service to nation, service to our country, standing up for fairness, that was his motto. and the rest is history. you all know him. he is as much as your son, as he is ours. he belongs to america. hes. represented america so wel. taught us even to your own peril, you stand up for fairness, and he has left us with amazing light and grace that we continue to cherish evn today. if ask ghazala, she would say we were blessed to have him for 27 years. and he left us with a candle

from which others are lighting their candle of serving others of, standing with others, those were honorable. he stood with them, in fifth grade we received a call from his principal, please come to the principal's office and mrs. khan rushed. she thought something bad has happened. principal had a boy and a girl and humayun in his office. she saw the look on mrs. khan's face. there is nothing wrong. something good i want to tell you . he saw how the boy was bulling the girl in the classroom and the he saw it second day, the second day humayun stood up to this boy, told him that you will

not bully her anymore. that was fifth grade humayun. that is how we know him. >> critics said that you were politicizing your son's death? >> yes we were politicizing, there comes a time in one person's life, knowing captain humayun's values, know why he hadha done after that bigoted statement and detailed in the book after the bigoted statement i will ball all muslims, all hispanics will be thrown out here. they are criminals. women deserve no equal respect and judges are partial. so all children of our neighborhood, our children's children, our, grandchildren's

classmates. our children's friends and their children children would approach to me you're a lawyer. is this true? if this person becomes president will be thrown out of here? we are afraid. and i would hearten them. i would hug them and tell them know, we're a country of laws. we're a country of constitution, equal protection, equal dignity, rule of law. but nothing would hearten them. they would not eat well. they would not pay attention to their homework. some of the parents called me and said, you have to speak to them again, because they refuse to go to school every morning in. they have tummyache. they don't want to go to school. we ask them why don't you want to go to school? they say that our friends are telling news the school that when you go back from school your parents would have been taken. you will never see them again. so we don't want to go to school. this was happening in our personal life and then came the invitation to come speak.

we were reluctant. we didn't want to go. we sat for two days pondering should we go, shouldn't we go? we're humble, private, modest people, non-political totally. butt that was on our mind when invitation came. when that card came from a middle school, four children wrote to us and they placed it in our mailbox because there was no stamp on that envelope and this is what that card said. one line that has taken us in this spirit of captain humayun kahn, care for others, even to your own peril you must care, you must stand for fairness. it is that card that one line that sent us that day. we had almost decided we will not go because of our well-wishers, our other children said, do not go. this is not your cup of tea. this is what that line said.

mr. khan, would you make sure that maria is not thrown out of this country? we o love her. she's our friend. and i read that card twice. we are people of faith. we had been praying for two days that some guidance should come our way so that we can decide, so that we don't regret, should we have gone, should we have not gone. i brought that card to ghazala immediately. she looked at it, her eyes welled, she looked at me, please call them, we will go. we will go on behalf of these children. so when they see that, they would be heartened. they would be encouraged that somebody is speaking on their behalf. so those who say this, that we are politicizing captain humayun khan. of course we are, we are politicizing for fairness.

we are politicizing his life, his sacrifice, for the well-being of our children, we are so proud, if he was alive today he would be standing right here. this is how we greeted one another. left side to left side because that's where hearts are. and he would always encourage us and, so it's a tribute to his life. the proceeds of this book that we have published, there are two now, one for the middle schoolchildren, this is our constitution, and, and the other book the proceeds of this book, both of these books, are dedicated to the school scharre leadership that we have set -- scholarship in university of virginia. it is entitled captain humayun khan scholarship, on need-based perpetuity the students will benefit. the good life he lived, blessed

usor with 27 years and his lega. yes, we are politicizing. yes, we are doing this so loudly, so clearly, so that others that are sill walking in the middle of the road would decide that this is the time for all of us to stand for fairness. [applause] >> and mr. khan, you have had a very long relationship with the american constitution. you write about studying it, admiring it when you were young in pakistan, memorizing it. do you have it right now? >> yes, i do. i will bring out -- [applause] i'll bring out for the purpose that i carried this in a minute. but yes, my love affair with the united states constitution bill

of rights, most importantly, declaration of independence has started in 1972. those who criticized that i, why amin i so passionate about this? my passion for this blessed document and the values, i at that time, when i read it first when i read the declaration of independence first, i could not dream, i did not have the caliber or courage to think that one day i will be able to go and sit among the blessed people that are sitting under the values of these good documents. i am so passionate about values of constitution, bill of rights, dignities, rule of law enshrined in our articles is this. twice in my life i have lived without any dignity under martial law, under authoritarian

regimes. you can draw the conclusions. i will simply point out that i have lived under authoritarian dictators, military dictators, in pakistan. once, when i was middle school student. second, when i was law student. i could notse get out of my home unless the military dictator gave us permission, you can come out of your house. i could not read the newspaper because the newspapers were the enemy of the dictator. they were the enemy of the, the free press was the enemy of the authoritarian dictator of the country. burne all the presses. shoot all the reporters. if they don't behave, kill them. if have seen with my own eyes w press was mistreated. the fourth pillar of our democracy, was maligned and mistreated. i have seen how judges were

declared their incompetence. they don't decide the cases. i will decide. i am the dictator. i am the ruler. i am the custodian of the justice for this nation. i will decide myself. these are the two traits of authoritarians. they do not like free press. the free press is their enemy. fake media. you draw the conclusions. judges are partial. they are no good. we will see you in the court. when you to the court, we will see you in the court again. it is those traits that i grew up, when i read the declaration of independence, first time i was in awe. that is there a nation on this planet that declares its independence? what a courage they have. normally i also come from the background was in subcontinent that you gain your independence by, when the king or the ruler feels benevolent, they he will

declare you free. you struggle for it. there had never been a nation, i challenge most americans today, read your documents. read your founding documents. you willyo come out of, in awe f the founding values of this country. this country declared it is independence. we are free, hence forth. andd declared the grievances. i read all 1338 words of the declaration in one standing. my feet were hurting. i took my shoes off. i read them. i did not understand the full it then in the first reading but i read it. then i read the articles that describe our rule of law, how the judicial system would work. how theib judges will be appointed. the relation between state and federal government. oh, so that is how civilized

people live. then, i read the best part of the constitution, our bill of rights. iti still remain, i took this exercise a few years ago out of curiosity. i decided to read the most of this world's constitutions of the countries that have constitution. there is no nation on this earth, and i, implore you to do that exercise, which declares in its constitution the very first amendment, which says the first five words i'm more you to look at the spirit of those first five word, congress shall make no laws. the congress is the supreme body of this nation. has the full authority to decide and declare whatever laws should be enacted or rescinded.

but congress is being prohibited from touching those liberties under first amendment and the rest under our bill of rights. no other constitution of the world, generally the constitutions say, congress have the right to do this or parliament has the authority to do this or legislate whatever it deems appropriate, except united states. it prohibits, calls those values enshrined especially, i give example of the first amendment and the very first value that is enshrined, you draw the conclusion and connect the dots, is the freedom of the press. it is so fundamental to the united states liberty, it's democracy, its rule of law. freedom of religion, whether you practice or you don't practice any religion, but you shall not be discriminated based on that. it is thosese values that have

made us beacon of hope for the rest of the world. it iss for such reasons that i m so passionate. 168 speaking engagements. [applause] 168 speaking engagements. i shall continue, as long as it takes to remind the entire nation of the goodness of this country, of the values that are enshrined in a documents, the basic foundations of our democracy, our rule of law, and i am so heartened, when i see the fear, when i see the concern in the hearts and minds of communities throughout the nation because when there is so much concern, when there is so much realization that we have taken a wrong turn, soon thereafter, immediately thereafter there is the

correction. i am so hopeful. [applause] i, i give you, you say give us an example. i give you an example. i come from virginia, from charlottesville, virginia. you saw the results. you saw the result last tuesday. we took the turn for the right and this nation will take the turn for the nation for the right. [applause] it is, it is that that gives us hope that regardless of, regardless r of russian collaborator entered into the white house we will correct, we will take our democracy back. we will take the dignity of our electoral system back. this nation because it is founded on the goodness, on the pluralism, on giving every citizen of this nation equal dignity, equal d right, we will move forward with that spirit that founding spirit of this

nation. should we be concerned about our safety, our security, of our borders, of our nation, yes. we all are responsible for our security but unfair treatment of vulnerable communities, that is a defeated mentality. this nation will never stand for that. n [applause] >> let's talk about then candidate trump who called for total and complete shutdown of muslims in this country until we figure out what the hell is going on. his words, not mine. let's talk about those words. a reporter called you the next day, and asked for your reaction. your reaction was americans are good and decent people, and this will never happen. has your view changed? >> no, my stand and my belief is further confirmed. we f are concerned about our safety, yes, and i am for that,

very strong immigration. we don't have immigration policy wewe have immigration law and i will explain in a second the difference between policy and laws but we must protect our borders. we must protect our nation's -- those with malintention, with malice in their mind and their heart should never be allowed to enter the united states but that doesn't mean that we begin to violate our constitution. we begin to issue executive orders that are in violation of the v constitution. ii believe in the statements and the declaration of national security advisors. those who have given their life and those who spent all of their life protecting this nation, they all declared that such declarations do not protect us. such declaration put our men and women serving in overseas in harm's way, under danger, under

risk, therefore this kind of bigotry is of no value to this nation. it does not protect us. my faith is reaffirmed in the constitutional values of this country based on this, there is a purpose not of deciding such policy decision based on the violation of the first amendment, freedom of religion, freedom of faith, that no laws will be passed based on that. i not only have spoken against that, i have filed two briefs explaining to the courts on the ninth circuit and the supreme court as well, that why it is harmfulo to our nation, even for the security matters, that such distinction, strict security policy, yes. strict immigration policy, yes. but, violating the constitution,

marginalizing community, alienating a community, gives room to those who have malice about our country to find a corner to grow, to become more powerful. this is what i said when i, this is what i meant when i said, we have immigration laws but we don't have immigration policy. this is the difference. in immigration policy, this nation never had immigration policy. this is what happens, in immigration policy we take estimate, how many people are retiring this year, next three years, next five years, next 20 years, who will be replacing them in the workforce so that the income to support their needs, their retirement, is continuing. we do not have that. we do not have which sector will be needing how much manpower,

how many people will be needed to support technology. how many people will be needed five years, 10 years, 20 years from now, infarming, agriculture,e, industry, in manufacturing, in technology. we have don't have that policy, that is why it is reported and please, consider this. there are seven million, mostly americans unemployed in this nation. there are 6.2 million vacancies in the technology field we can not find enough trained people to fill. that is whyhy this disparity of income exist, that these folks are using that disparity to sow theiv division, that oh, immigrants are coming, they're taking over your jobs. other nations are preparing people for the future. meaning they're training their young men and women to take technology jobs that is why you

see influx of people coming outside of the united states. we dope have a immigration policy. it is notur that we lack resources. it is some of these divisive. -- folks in our nation, found fear of immigrants, easy target, easy to exploit the sentiments of the community. that is what they're doing, instead of advising we should train our young generation for the next two year, three-year, five-years, 10 years. sonc we will fill ought the vacancies that exist. even today, 6.2 million vacancies. ask any technology expert of this country, they will tell you, there are not enough people trained in the united states that will take those jobs. so the disparity exists. that is being exploited. by those who divide us based on

that. that is an old script. first world war, second, they're not geniuses that they come out with the economic disparity division, something new they have invented, not at all. first world war, read the script, first world war, second world war. three elements. one, nationalism. second, economic well being, third, was fear of immigrants, all these immigrants are coming, they will take over all of your jobs. same script, gave us first world war. same script gave us second world war. same script is being repeated now. this time, 2017 we're so codependent, we realize this issue of economic well-being, fear of immigrants, is a divisive issue. we have become so interdependent, that we should learn about this, how to solve these problems, how to resolve

them, so that the nation is stronger. so that this nation remains beacon of hope for the rest of the world. and remains strong, based on our foundation, on our ideals, on our democracy. look, the "brexit" took place in europe. i was invited to speak there. i spoke to them much early on when there was only hints of foreign intervention in the "brexit." today now they're investigating the influence of that foreign intervention in "brexit." they're regretting that this took place. same thing in the united states. we are discovering how our system of elections, how, our system of government was maligned, was attacked, its integrity was attacked. these elements we are becoming morere aware. we are becoming more aware that people ask me in every

gathering, so what is the solution? the solution is this. as virginia showed it on 7th of november, stand up. speak for your values. every american should participate in our electoral process. if we did that -- [applause] , if we did that our democracy would be stronger. those who look towards us with mall police in their hearts towards us will be dee dee feeted. -- defeated. we celebrated 230 years of founding documents, of our constitution. we have 230 more years to go. more to go, and we all remain in support of our values. we are direct beneficiaries. these dignities, i write in the book, that ask any person at the darkest corner of this earth who has never heard of america, who

has never heard of these values that arere enshrined in our founding documents, meaning what? meaning this. do you want to have freedom to speak? person will say yes. do you want to have freedom to practice your y faith or not hae any faith? they will say yes. do you want to have freedom to protest or speak? they will say yes. without realizing that we all are guaranteed those values. these values are worth fighting for, standing for, making sure that no one with the malice in their heart ever, ever, lays a bad h hand or bad eyes towards . it is that mission that i continue to speak in this spirit ofin captain humayun kahn. he gave his life and i repeat it because some people object to that, that why you are bringing

his sacrifice to the conversation, this political conversation. no, no, this is not political conversation. it is the conversation in defense of the values that are enshrined in our constitution in the three es blessed documents. this is the story ofto the goodness of this nation, that has made this nation a beacon of hope. i cite in the book the speech that i heard, and i stood up when reagan reached the end of that speech, where he says, i have dreamed of this nation as a city on a, shining city on a has walls around it but that wall has doors in it. so anyone with courage, anyone with heart, can enter those doors and become part of this blessed nation. so it is for that purpose that we continue to speak. >> i want to take us to a personal level.

[applause] more about your personal experience. obviously you knew speaking at the dnc was going to expose you andou your family in a way you hadn't experienced before but then it evolved with some sort of feud with then candidate trump. how has it changed the life of your family, and was it all worth it? >> yes, it was worth it, to many a times, many, many a times, now that we have begun to consider that. there comes, this is what we thought ghazala and i had it worked. there are two choices, again and again, captain humayun kahn's life comes into play. he could have simply liked he ordered his men to hit the ground. he could g have hit the ground t that would have caused this

suicide bomb to hit the wall and on the other side of the wall there were scores of american soldiers a that had just, had breakfast were getting ready to go to work that morning, that fateful morning. that choice. he could have ordered, his commanders are telling us he could have ordered his men protecting the base shoot that cab but he must have thought this may be an innocent person that had lost his way. so he gave his life in protection of others, in care of others. it is in that spirit that we say that we stood, we continued to speak. regardless of attack. we have received thousands of wonderful mail, heartening mail fromer all over the country. people reminding us that, thank you for reminding us of our constitution, of our values, of

your goodness. we're grateful for that, but then therere had been some ugliness as well. there had been some discouraging email. but look at the difference. this is where strength of the stand and the standing for fairness is so visible. those who have written us ugly e-mails. this is how we look at it, the envelope of the mail, they do not write a return address on it. that speaks, that speaks, that, won doesn't know from the other but they're all displaying the same cowardice. they do not realize that how, it is so common because of the cowardice on the other hand. we have, we have people that have showered their love and their care and their courtesy. we have a letter from retired

army nurse, 26 pages, she writes. she served in second world war in germany. on the 26th page she writes to us telling whole story of service in europe, prior to second world war, mr. and mrs. kahn, continue to speak. had more people spoken before second world w war we could have avoided atrocities that were committed in second world war. we could have avoided the atrocities that were committed against our jewish brothers and sisters in second world war. continue to speak. it is such letter, that 26th page means so very much to me i will continue speak. [applause] >> there so so much more i want to ask you but i want to open it up to the audience if there are questions for audience members,

mr. khan. >> yes, first of all, just like to say nobody would take away from your son's sacrifice or from the grief any gold star family must feel when they lose a son but, once you put yourself out there as a political figure, and as a very rabid critic of the president, at the time candidate trump, i think, it opened you up like you can't say you're above criticism at that point, he had a right to defend himself. he had a right to say whatever he wanted to defend himself. okay. that is the first point but the second point was, about the, the second question -- >> let's allll be respectful. >> the constitution does not, there is no constitutional right for people outside of this country too enter the country. i hope you understand there is

no constitutional right. so there is, when you hold up the constitution say this is the constitution, what trump was saying is nothing contrary to the constitution. was -- >> everyone b -- >> responsibility of any president is to protect this country. if there ise' group of people anywhere in the world, because of religious extremism, that poses a threat he was saying let's suspend, not ban, suspend, suspend until we, suspend immigration until we have clear vetting and strong vetting for people in place but that was not the way it was covered in the press. not the way -- >> give him a chance to respond. >> stop screaming. i would be able too finish. you people are very rude. you are all giving standing ovation, not because you love him. you hate trump. admit it. >> can we let him answer the

question? >> i did understand, my brother's questions so i don't know what to say. >> i think he was saying -- i'm trying to interpret. i think that he was saying the president had a right to argue back and that he has a right to call for a suspension of a certain group of people who he believes are a threat to the united states. it think that was, what i got from it. >> well he is the president, he is entitled to his point of view, so are we. we are equal under the constitution. we have equal right to criticize a candidate and criticize the president, and we were exercising and we will continue to exercise our right of expression. [applause] let the courts decide who is right, who is wrong. so, youou know. >> okay. thank you. next question.

[shouting] >> thank you for being such a good human being, for inspiring all of us. [applause] and, for standing up for immigrants and for the rule of law. there is a law on the books called temporary protected status which, like all laws, the executive is supposed to follow, and right now, in the days before thanksgiving, dhs has to decide whether it is going to respect that law under which 50,000 haitians are protected of cholera epidemic and hurricane matthew and the earthquake. so i, we all should appreciate your reminders of the values that we're not a country that

allows individuals to run amok overow the law but the executive has a to obey it. thanks for the reminders. >> thank you. [applause] >> good evening, mr. khan. i understand you have a, fulfilled many dreams in your life, coming to the united states, going to harvard, is there any other dream you have yet to fulfill? thank you. >> [applause] >> my m dream would be to see my nation become beacon of, remain beacon of hope for the rest of the world. there is ath report in the media and international media and all that that, instead of being number one on the prestige of the nations, we have slid to

number six since last election. and i want to continue to see my nation become number one, not because of its military power or its economic power, no no,. because of its ideals, because of its ideals, because of its principles, those principles being beacon of hope for the rest of the world. thank you. [applause] >> mr. khan, i believe there is a certain threat to our constitution which was expounded by the late justice scalia which is that you have to interpret everything in its originalist idea as if nobody else could have any idea or, way to interpret the constitution. what do you think of scalia's

position? >> no, agree with, with the late justice'ss interpretation and is point of view. it is a living document. we should always remember this, that all the changes that are taking placece in our country, throughout the world we must continue to deal with them. there is legislative pros test. there is constitutional process. to incorporate those changes. somen sometime that argument is presented, it is limited to certain provisions of brill of rights. if we need to be strict, presenting our personal values and p constitution enshrined in the documents that should be all provisions of constitution, not certain provisions of the argument. that is they only humble footnoe

that i have, but i agree with justice scalia, that the constitution should be read under its original sense but then, which are not living in 1776, 1784. [applause] we should, we should be cognizant of that fact as well, and that we moved forward to 2017 but i agree with him. thank you. yes? >> you y talked a lot about defending the constitution. i wonder what your position is inin terms of the united states 'role defending the universal declaration of rights, values that enshrines i think also reflect american values? >> did you understand? >> i'm sorry, can you repeat that one more time? >> what is your position on how you see the u.s. defending the universal declaration of human rights? >>ts oh, yes, yes.

i, look, sometimes people begin to get this impression when i speak so passionately about my country, about its values, about its goodness, about its history, somehow i'm saying this is the perfect place on planet earth. not at all. this is not perfect place. there is so much room to make things better. there is so much more to move forward with. but this is the best place. this is the best place. compare it with the rest of the world and you will come to this conclusion, there is no other nation as united states of america. theti declaration of human righ, international declaration of human rights, so much more needs to be done. we are falling behind because of the current circumstances. we are falling behind on those commitments that wes have made o the rest of the world. we are absent from the table, from the world table where we used to sit.

we are absent now from there. that is putting us behind. instead of moving forward we're retracting and that concerns me. but i, but i agree that we have so much, we have, we have so much h further to go, to move or nation forward. so -- >> thank you so much. may god bless you and your family for the sacrifice. as an expatriate of pakistan i can vouch for what you said about a the constitution and whn it is violated. as a member of the muslim community we have no rights in pakistan to vote and the parliament of pakistan has declared -- asli non-muslims, which they have no right to do. and that is something that share with my friends in america, that

the constitution as you are saying is absolutely a sacred document. this protects not only amity, pakistan on other hand has taken a spiral, nosedive, since they declared them non-muslims. i agree with that 100%, my question toe you, might be irrelevant to american audience if they're given opportunity to speak to authorities in pakistan, would you be able to convince them, give amity muslims? >> don't go anywhere. i. i wish you read the book, i address that issue, none of us, muslim, to muslim, has any right, any right to declare other persons out of their claimed faith, period. we are all of equal dignity.

this is between one person of faith and, and faith that he or she practice. i have no right to declare somebody out of this faith or in thisis faith. i, i condemned violence that muslims are committing throughout the world. i condemn that violence but i still do not give myself that right. or they're not muslims. i am only, i am one that is muslim. . .

answer your question on friday, say i know this but i am answering his sincerity of prayer. go answer all of his prayer. he is praying so sincerely, even though he is praying to an idle. so it is that, it's matter of divine decisions and all that we all are equal dignity, equal

respect, equal character. so. >> thank you, god bless you. >> thank you. >> first i wanted to thank you so much as a muslim-american for all you have done for the muslim-american community and in such a good way and that means a lot to me. my question is, when exactly -- what exactly pushed your son to join the armed forces? >> it's not too complicated. when he made the decision to join the rotc program and then take the commission, we asked him what his motives are, and he said, look, whenever i am with the members of the rotc, they're

so honorable. they are so committed. they are so hard-working. i feel that i am in element with them. now, you tell me that, as a grownup child of a person says that i want to join army or i want to join armed forces for these honorable goals and aims, how could you refuse? how could you decline? how could you discourage him? we gave him our blessing. his statement to us was, which hart ended was, i feel i'm in my element with this honor and dignity and service to others, service to our nation, and so under those circumstances we readily agreed with him. [applause]

>> i'd like to thank you, mr. khan, on behalf of miami book fair and on behalf of miami-dade college every here. thank you for gracing us with your presence and inspiration. >> thank you very much. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> joinings news on our book tv set here on the campus of miami-dade college, katy tur of nbc. her book, "unbelievable: my front row seat the contractseest campaign in american history." katy tur, reading this book, there didn't seem to me much of a filter on it. is that a fair assessment? no that was on purpose. this was not coverage of the